2011 ABC Report on the Half Point MMA Scoring System
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The Association of Boxing Commissions (ABC) holds annual conventions, and last year veteran MMA referee and judge Nelson "Doc" Hamilton presented the Half-Point Scoring System as an alternative to the Ten Point Must. A Scoring Committee was then formed to explore the merits of the system and report their findings the following year.
If you're not familiar with the innovative ideas associated with the Half-Point System -- such as the broader gradient of available scores, the referee signaling a near-submission, or the role of the additional fourth judge -- you should be. I suggest reading Doc Hamilton's theory about the existing problems with MMA judging and how the Half-Point System would offer the freedom "to score bouts in a manner that accurately reflects the qualitative difference between the combatants."
The 2011 ABC convention concluded last weekend and I just received a copy of the Scoring Committee's analysis of the Half-Point System. I'm encouraged by the results. The report lays out the positive and negative aspects of each individual component of the system, and their findings indicate a very logical and realistic stance on the judging predicament overall. The entire report is posted in the full entry, but first, I'll extract and compile what I feel are the most noteworthy parts.
Two aspects of the Half-Point System that I'm adamantly opposed to were both shot down by the committee: the referee signaling a near-submission and the addition of a fourth judge. In the event of a draw, this "table judge" would appoint a winner by tallying up scores that are derived from a rigid point system. The reasons these two components were nixed mirror my opinions precisely.
The first of the three issues raised in having the ref signal a near-submission is:
a) The Referee's primary responsibility is for the safety of the fighters. By adding this additional role, the committee felt that this had the potential of affecting the referee's ability to stay focused on the task of administering the primary mandate, that is, fighter protection. As a general rule the more complex you make a task the greater the chance for failure.
Two of the three justifications for eliminating the table judge to break draws by tabulating points are:
a) The Committee felt that having a 4th judge decide a contest based on different judging criteria might create additional problems, the point being that athletes are used to certain judging criteria and then are being judged on a different criteria to break the ties.
c) Currently athletic Commissions are having a difficult time finding qualified judges to fill the three positions, much less finding additional qualified personnel to fill this fourth spot.
Cue the applause. I could not have summarized the concerns better. The influence of the media in the Stakeholder Questionnaire and the passage on draws are also worth noting, but these two poignant observations in the Additional Comments section show an honest assessment that most fans will agree with.
· The Committee felt that whether the current 10 point system remains intact or the proposed ½ point system (or any variations thereof) is adopted that MMA officials are still lacking in an overall understanding of the sport. As one committee member stated "the ½ point system will not make a bad judge a better judge."
· The Committee also felt that a more defined scoring system should be adopted with respect to judging, which would enhance MMA judges with respect to their decisions.
Association of Boxing Commissions
½ Point MMA Judging Committee
2011 Report
Washington DC Annual Conference
MMA Committee on Judging:
Chair Jeff Mullen
Members
Aaron Davis Ed Garner
Dale Kliparchuk
Josef Mason
Todd Neal
Terry Smith
Dr. Joseph Cooper
Overview:
In July of 2010 at the Association of Boxing Commissions annual conference in New Orleans a committee was struck to examine MMA judging.
The purpose of this committee was to examine a proposal made by Nelson "Doc" Hamilton to the ABC on the use of the ½ point judging system for MMA.
Hamilton proposed a scoring system based on breaking the scoring down to half-points, where a close round, a solid win, a dominant win and having the opponent on the verge of defeat could all be differentiated.
Under this system, if a fighter wins a round that's difficult to call, it gets scored 10-9.5. When it's clear that one fighter won the round, it's 10-9. When a fighter dominates the round but doesn't have his opponent in bad shape during the round, or if a fighter does major damage but the opponent gets a degree of offense in, that would be a 10-8.5. A 10-8 round or lower would be similar to how things are scored today.
Under Hamilton's system, the referee would also be involved in calling catches or submission attempts during the course of the bout. There would also be a 4th judge implemented in the event of draws, which under the ½ point system would have a great likelihood of occurring.
Committee Objectives:
The goal of the committee was to explore Hamilton's system to determine if this system could be implemented by the majority of Athletic Commissions that make up the Association of Boxing Commissions membership and to see if this new MMA scoring system would be an improvement on the current 10 point system which most Commissions use today. A report would be submitted a year later at the next ABC annual meeting in Washington D.C.
The Committee met via conference calls several times with detailed agenda issues.
Stakeholder Questionnaire:
The committee decided to get input from select stakeholders (Promoters, sanctioning groups etc.) in the MMA industry regarding judging issues that were facing the industry.
The committee sent out email correspondence to these stakeholders and asked for their responses in a questionnaire. Some stakeholders responded while others did not.
*An attached questionnaire is included at the end of this report for ABC member perusal.
Committee ½ Point Evaluation:
Hamilton's model was viewed in its entirety and then broken down into components.
The committee identified two issues (see below) with respect to Hamilton's system which were potentially problematic if they were to be implemented.
The other issue which was identified by the committee was ensuring that the ½ point system was given a fair evaluation. The system as a whole had many components (referee involvement, 4th judge etc.), and by implementing all of those components the committee felt it would be difficult to identify which one or ones were responsible for the success or failure of the system.
In essence the committee felt that by testing one variable at a time versus multi-variable testing, this would allow a better evaluation and a more accurate measure of the results.
In summary, the committee discussed several of the key variables in Hamilton's model and identified which had the best chance of being implemented and adopted by Athletic Commissions and accepted in the industry as a whole.
The following are two components of the ½ point system which were discussed by the committee and were voted not to be implemented and the subsequent reasoning.
1. Referee being involved in calling catches / attempted submissions
The Committee unanimously voted against this option for the following reasons:
a) The Referee's primary responsibility is for the safety of the fighters. By adding this additional role, the committee felt that this had the potential of affecting the referee's ability to stay focused on the task of administering the primary mandate, that is, fighter protection. As a general rule the more complex you make a task the greater the chance for failure.
b) Many referees' still lack the skills to identify the techniques and positions found within MMA. As such the committee felt even if a referee was tasked with this mandate, many referees would still not be able to adequately perform this task, and would either miss catches or identify wrong catches altogether, further creating problems with the judging.
c) The Committee acknowledged that some referees would have the skills and abilities to perform (a) and (b), however, the majority of officials would not be able to do so.
2. Table judge (4th judge) to be assigned to all MMA matches.
The Committee unanimously voted against this option for the following reasons:
a) The Committee felt that having a 4th judge decide a contest based on different judging criteria might create additional problems, the point being that athletes are used to certain judging criteria and then are being judged on a different criteria to break the ties.
b) The Committee felt that athletic commissions would not favor the implantation of a 4th judge when traditionally the 3 judge system has been used, and Commissions have designed much of their existing protocols on the 3 judge system.
c) Currently athletic Commissions are having a difficult time finding qualified judges to fill the three positions, much less finding additional qualified personnel to fill this fourth spot.
Draws:
The committee identified the strong possibility that fights ending in a draw would be more common. The committee discussed this issue and came to no conclusions as to how this could or should be handled. Opinions varied as to whether having more draws would even be an issue.
It was ultimately decided that this issue would be left up to the ABC collective membership as a whole for a detailed discussion if this system were to be implemented.
Conclusion:
The committee felt that before any new system was to be implemented, that it would have to go through an extensive evaluation phase where the new system was used during the course of normal MMA events: For this to occur several Athletic Commissions would need to volunteer their services and implement this system (or the adapted system - minus the referee involvement and table judge), into their existing judging model and Commission protocols.
The committee felt that this step would require detailed discussions with the entire ABC membership as many jurisdictions and legislation would be affected by the implementation of the new system. Additionally some promotions and athletes may be affected if they were used to field test the system.
The committee acknowledges that specific evaluation criteria would have to be developed and maintained so that Commissions could ensure that the system was in fact being evaluated in a consistent and fair manner, and not in a haphazard way.
As a result the committee has decided to present their findings at the ABC conference and discuss with the ABC membership the next direction (if any) that should be taken with the possible implementation of the ½ point system.
The committee may oversee and investigate the results of Athletic Commissions who volunteer for the evaluation phase as a possible option.
*Note: The ½ point system and evaluated is being used by CAMO in California.
Additional Comments:
The committee also acknowledged that some officials currently being used by Athletic Commissions do not have a strong understanding of MMA, and this has contributed to the issues and concerns of MMA judging. The committee recognizes that each jurisdiction is ultimately responsible for the hiring and training of their officials and can only make recommendations.
The Committee felt that whether the current 10 point system remains intact or the proposed ½ point system (or any variations thereof) is adopted that MMA officials are still lacking in an overall understanding of the sport. As one committee member stated "the ½ point system will not make a bad judge a better judge."
There are currently several ABC recognized training programs on the market and many Athletic Commissions routinely conduct in house training to offset these ABC training programs. The committee felt this was a positive step in the right direction in improving the judging with MMA.
The committee felt that new individuals being hired as judges should receive adequate training and if possible receive both mentorship and experience from amateur events where they can hone their skills as a judge.
The Committee also felt that a more defined scoring system should be adopted with respect to judging, which would enhance MMA judges with respect to their decisions.
Special Acknowledgment:
The Committee acknowledges Nelson "Doc" Hamilton who has put together a detailed program in an effort to help the issues facing MMA judging, and who has been strong supporter of the MMA community.
*Attachments: MMA Stakeholder Questionnaire form:
Questions:
1. Do you feel that there are issues with the current MMA judging system (the 10 point must system)? If so explain.
2. Has your organization been affected by what you perceive as substandard judging?
3. Do you agree with the recent media reports suggesting that the judging in MMA needs to be changed and/or improved? Explain
4. Are you familiar with the ½ point judging system being proposed?
5. Would you support a new judging system, such as the ½ point system which allows for a greater division of points to be given?
6. The committee has identified that the ½ point system may result in more bouts being decided as draws. Will this be an issue with your organization and if so can you recommend any solutions as a way of solving this issue.
7. Can you foresee any other problems if the ½ point judging system were to be implemented.
8. If the ½ point system were to be implemented would your organization be willing to cooperate and be used to trial test this system at some of your events.
9. Are there any comments or concerns specific to MMA judging that you would like to comment on which would help Commissions improve judging.
Update (8-2-11): I've just been notified that more information may arise from the ABC on this topic. I incorrectly mentioned above that the annual convention had concluded, when in fact the final session will take place on Wednesday, August 3rd, and the Scoring Committee is scheduled to address the group in the morning.
ABC Annual Conference, Day 3
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ABC Annual Conference, Day 3
Wednesday was the third day of the Association of Boxing Commission’s annual convention. The day was entirely given over to Mixed Martial Arts.
Several key committees gave reports.
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Mma Training Committee
Chaired by Nick Lembo, NJ
Chaired by Nick Lembo, NJ
Added Kevin McDonald and Mario Yamasaki as ABC approved trainers. They are each now approved as trainers for both reffing and judging.
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Muay Thai Unified Rules Committee
Chaired by Nick Lembo, NJ
Chaired by Nick Lembo, NJ
Lembo conveyed to the membership his deep understanding and appreciation of Muay Thai, detailing for them areas where Muay Thai is uniquely different from kickboxing, including:
Time limit on ram Muay:
Necessity of a ring (not a cage):
Use of an amulet on the upper arm;
Allowance of clinching;
Use of Thai linament (but no other oils);
Low blow technicalities;
Definition of clean striking with the knees and elbows,[
Definition of damage
-Did the blow cause a retreat?
-Did it unbalance?
-Did it stop his attack?
-Did he show show pain?
-Was there visible damage like a cut?
Finish of fight – who looks fresh at end.
Time limit on ram Muay:
Necessity of a ring (not a cage):
Use of an amulet on the upper arm;
Allowance of clinching;
Use of Thai linament (but no other oils);
Low blow technicalities;
Definition of clean striking with the knees and elbows,[
Definition of damage
-Did the blow cause a retreat?
-Did it unbalance?
-Did it stop his attack?
-Did he show show pain?
-Was there visible damage like a cut?
Finish of fight – who looks fresh at end.
Unanimously passes
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Unified Amateur Rules
Chaired by Andy Foster, GA
Chaired by Andy Foster, GA
The Unified Amateur Rules Committee was a fighting dream team of experts including Dr. Sheryl Wulkan and Dr. Joseph Estwanik, Jeff Mullen who is an officiating dream team all by himself, Pat Reid, Brian Dunn, Dale Kliparchuk, the extraordinarily influential Nick Lembo, Dan Fitzgerald, and others, as well as taking feedback from amateur sanctioning bodies. The committee was tirelessly chaired by Andy Foster, who is a State commissioner, a former long-time professional MMA fighter, and an enormous advocate for MMA in a body that was originally created for the regulation of boxing.
It was repeatedly emphasized that regardless of the rules, the key to amateur MMA , above all, is that it is regulated. It was further pointed out that the amateurs need protection above all.
There was extended discussion by a large number of members over Unified Amateur Rules, including tiered rules changes, GnP, shin pads, prohibited submissions,
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MMA Scoring Committee:
Chaired by Jeff Mullen, TN
Chaired by Jeff Mullen, TN
The MMA scoring committee which includes Aaron Davis, Dr. Joseph Cooper PhD, Josef Mason, and Dale Kliparchuk focused on Half Point Scoring. The report detailed testing of the system in California. While there were reservations about aspects of the new system, the sentiment was very largely positive.
Big John McCarthy spoke to the membership and reminded that a bad judge is a bad judge under any scoring system, and proper training is the key.
There was wide agreement that the 10-Point Must system is appropriate for boxing, but not the exact right fit for MMA. That said, the introduction of an entirely new scoring system is a huge step, so the call was made for a further year of testing, with a request that some ACs step up and test Half Point Scoring in the pro ranks.
Several states, including Josef Mason in Colorado and Andy Foster in Georgia agreed to step and and test in the pro ranks what appears to be a better, but more complex system.
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ABC Medical Committee Report
Dr. Sheryl Wulkan, chair
Dr. Sheryl Wulkan, chair
Policy on Licensing of contestants with a missing limb.
Dr. Wulkan showed a profound, nuanced, professional understanding of the challenges faced by MMA fighters with missing limbs.
Dr. Wulkan showed a profound, nuanced, professional understanding of the challenges faced by MMA fighters with missing limbs.
-Recommendation that potential licencees be evaluated on a case by case basis, using criteria including:
Can they defend themselves effectively?
Can they be offensively effective against the fighter with whom they are matched?
Is there an increased medical risk?
-Several MMA fighters with missing limbs were identified, including Kyle Maynard whose bout was not cast in a positive light, and Nick Newell, who was identified as an excellent fighter, and whose licensing she would recommend.
-It was suggested that with the increase in war veterans with missing limbs, an amputation division might become a possibility for those prospective athletes whose participation is disallowed.
Medical Requirements for a contestant over 36
Older athlete may look fantastic, but can have underlying medical age-induced issues
Especially relevant to amateur competitors
Detailed recommended tests
Older athlete may look fantastic, but can have underlying medical age-induced issues
Especially relevant to amateur competitors
Detailed recommended tests
Therapeutic Use Exemptions
TUE not the same as TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy)
TUE can be ADHD, Narcolepsy, Asthma, low testosterone, and more
TUE not the same as TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy)
TUE can be ADHD, Narcolepsy, Asthma, low testosterone, and more
Criteria
-Physicians’s Declaration
-Fighter’s Declaration
-Supporting Documentation
Recommend a committee that is independent of each other
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UFC Attorney, former Nevada Deputy Attorney General Mike Mersch went over the civil and legal penalties for using an eight-sided cage in a mixed martial arts event. Mersch noted that an eight-sided cage is allowed for training purposes in the gym, but emphasized that an eight-sided cage CANNOT be used in a mixed martial arts contest [because the UFC has legal protection with the use of the Octagon for combat sports events.]
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